Facepalm... they arent the same situation.
World salvation as connoted in the NT is not saving the world from the world itself. Jesus said that Satan is the prince of this world. World salvation in the NT means having been "saved" by Jesus's supposedly atoning death on the cross. Accept that, accept Jesus as son of god, god the son, repent, do good works, love one another - that's all part of salvation as conceived in Christianity. The world, according to John, has been "overcome" by Jesus's atoning death, but only spiritually. Salvation comes to individuals and communities who embrace Jesus as savior. It does not come to the world at large, and even then, it is a transformation of-and-in the soul, not an outward "fixing" of the world's woes.
I am just playing devils advocate for the believers.
Lmbo, because I'm about to propose?? That is my favorite beer, and I used to sneak over to Wienersnitzel all the time. Idk if the chain is still open though, I have seen one in forever.
Everything is interrelated especially when we're making judgements about the 'designer' of all things.
Snowflakes? Is that a branch of Christianity? There are so many.
I?d rather that words mean what they mean regardless of who says them
Most atheists are not anti anything, they don't see any evidence for a god of any sort so do believe that theists of all stripes are wasting their time.m However most of us have friends, relatives, close relatives who are, in our case, Christian. These tend to be, in my experience, moderate in their views.
I agree with you, a basic human right and no one should get in the way. Not government, not religion, no one.
My favorite line from that movie
Thanks John. And I mean it. I really didn't want to do it, but I would have. I understand your 'ick' factor at two men kissing, but they have as much right as anybody else. Your particular phobia is going to seem as quaint to your children and grandchildren as your parents' phobia for people of different 'races' kissing seems to you.
they're probably not even awake yet...
You mean there is an outlaw in the Middle ?
actually, He sent the holy spirit to teach about Him and to lead into ALL TRUTH.
I'm working with reality. I'm trying to work with what actually exists. You're welcome to join me in this endeavor, often called 'science'. The human activity that makes up stuff that might or might not be possible is called "fiction".
>>"can a person make another person provide products and or services for event(s) that go against their religious views?"<<
Actually built on your posting that maybe Mary and Joseph never existed. Their existence or non existence were irrelevant to 1st century Christianity and its goals.
SoS. Do you generally support the opinions of ancient uneducated nomadic nincompoops, as a self professing Physicist with a doctorate?
The burden is on you and Tacitus to prove that what Tacitus was repeating from his contemporary Christian sources was historically accurate in its story of what supposedly happened in Judea centuries earlier. The Tacitus text doesn't show Tacitus having any advantage, and we cannot presume that he had access to some Pilatic record that the Christians themselves did not possess. Even had he such a record, he does not refer to it, but only to data he has received from sources that were "in the air" culturally during his time.
I remember my college graduation ceremonies (one for the University, and one for the Department) - the